For everyone finding their way to askchristine.wordpress.com for the first time – whether it’s via Lynn Hayes’ and Julie Demboski’s blogs, your own searches, Astrology News, or Astrology Blogger – welcome! Read, comment, browse, explore, enjoy!

I was fascinated to see the conversation that erupted after Lynn Hayes picked up the discussion about the ethics of predicting death from an astrological chart. It’s over here if you’d like to see – especially visit the comments section on that blog post.

The only time I’ve ever been asked directly about death was more than 10 years ago, when I was a modern astrologer. I was doing speed readings at a small, private party; the hostess gave me the birth data for all six of her guests ahead of time, and I met with each one privately for 15 minutes to talk about their charts and provide quick transit-based forecasts for the coming year. I remember one woman asking me point-blank, “I would like to know when and how I am going to die.” I was floored. I believe I gave her a non-fatalistic reply about how it’s not necessarily shown or set in stone, etc., but the truth is that I did NOT want to touch that question. Nowadays I don’t think modern astrology could even have provided her with an answer.

Here’s where I stand on it now, having forsaken modern astrology for the traditional perspective. I believe it is possible to predict death, possibly not to the date and time but certainly to a given season of a given year. I suspect it is possible to anticipate the likely cause of death, too. I don’t know how to do it – yet. I would like to know how it’s done.

Would I ever actually do it? Living in the litigation-happy United States, I probably would not. In an ideal world, I would like to believe that anyone who comes to me with a question they expect me to answer with astrology ought to be prepared to hear the answer. However, I have no idea what to do about self-fulfilling prophecies, or about those who let their own thoughts about the prediction cause them stress or grief. And I really don’t know what to do about clients who, given what they asked for (if not what they wanted to hear), sue anyway.

That said – I would definitely not volunteer information about a person’s death if they aren’t bringing up the topic themselves. I can’t imagine what’s going through the mind of the 21st century astrologer who would actually bring it up without the client’s requesting it. Warnings of danger, sure. But unsolicited information about the end of life? I don’t think we live in a time or a culture that supports having that knowledge.

What do you think? Have you ever been asked to talk about death – astrologically or otherwise?

18 Responses to “Welcome, new readers; follow-up about predicting death”

  1. Beth Says:

    Once a client asked me about her elderly mother who was very ill. I made the prediction but was wrong. That was a lesson there.

    Another client wanted a reading and I saw his wife’s death, but I didn’t tell him about it. I just told him that his wife could become ill suddenly and if that happened he needed to keep on the doctors to get a good diagnosis. Well, a blood vessel burst in her head and she died. The doctors didn’t have a clue what was wrong until she passed.

    Now I don’t tell anyone about their deaths. There should be a least one surprise, don’t you think?


  2. Thanks, Beth, for stopping by and sharing these stories. It is humbling stuff, isn’t it… whether we get it wrong or right. I think someone would have to ask me point-blank – twice – before I’d approach the topic with them. Maybe not even then…

  3. Judy Says:

    Years ago, on the X-Files, there was a wonderful episode about an insurance salesman who was able to predict how people would die. In one scene, a man who was a heavy smoker asked if he would die from lung cancer, and the insurance salesman told him, no–you will definitely not die from lung cancer. So, the smoker happily lights up and begins puffing madly away. Then, in the very next scene, he gets shot to death. Hilarious! And of course the wonderful irony pointedly demonstrated how worrying about our mortality can lead us to ask the wrong questions–so we miss things that are right in front of us.

    This debate reminds me of a similar issue that came up in an astrology class I took many years ago. The teacher had a client who was pregnant, and the woman wanted him to choose a time for the baby’s birth–the mother had decided to have a C-section in order to give her baby a “good” chart. I was completely appalled. The teacher said he did actually do the electional chart for the client, and as far he knows the birth went smoothly. He couldn’t understand what I thought was so horrible about it. I can see reasons for predicting death in certain limited circumstances–but I can’t imagine doing an electional birth chart–something about it completely rubs me the wrong way.


  4. I love it! “Nope, definitely not lung cancer.” Gotta ask the right question.

    I’m with you on electing birth times – that crosses a line, to me. Feels like interfering, or lacking faith/trust.

    I once knew someone with a late Aquarius Sun whose mother, an amateur astrologer, did NOT want a Pisces child for whatever reason. The mother induced labor so her daughter would be an Aquarius. Control issues, much?

  5. Monica Says:

    Christine — I was just catching up with your post on the UK rule requiring a disclaimer that astrology is just for entertainment purposes and I noticed that the comments are closed after just 8 comments. Is this a limitation of your blog? Or did you not feel like receiving any more comments on the issue? Just curious because if you look at a blog such as Nancy’s Blog, the number of comments on her posts often run into the hundreds. — Monica


  6. Hi, Monica, thanks for asking. I opted to delete some comments and close comments on that entry after the conversation veered away from astrology’s merits and into personal attacks.

  7. Monica Says:

    Oh, that makes me feel so sad. Why would people want to attack you and your incredible site? FYI, I used to write a financial astrology column for a wire service back in the 90s and I routinely put “for entertainment purposesonly ” on my column. I have it on my blog Astrology Mundo in the “About” section. My feeling back when I first got started was that I didn’t want some trader to sue me because he was a gullible Pisces and I told him today was the day to go long (buy) wheat and the price moved against him. I guess in our litigious society, I view such disclaimers as the “price” of doing business. My Saturn/Merc in Capricorn can be incredibly down to earth about such things. So there’s my comment on disclaimers. Please delete if you really wanted to end the conversation. Keep up the good work and don’t let the jerks get you down!


  8. Thanks for the insight about “for entertainment purposes only.” I tend to agree with you; if coffee cups are required to say “careful, coffee is hot”, then it’s hard to take a disclaimer personally.
    Thanks for your words of support, too! Delighted you’re enjoying the blog. :-)

  9. Ramesh Says:

    Dear Christine

    Would like to know how much time I and my sisters have to live:

    1. Name : Gudi.
    Date of birth/Time/Place:22.11.1949,6.00 PM –
    – Bangalore
    2. Name : Lata
    Date of birth/Time/Place: 1.10.1938,11.45 AM, –
    – Bangalore
    3. Name : Kamlesh
    Date of birth/Time/Place: 23.12.1936,03.20 AM –
    – Bangalore

    2 & 3 are especially desirous of knowing to plan legalities of will etc.

    Request help – we live in India and do not / can not sue you for such help / information / guidance..
    Sincerely Gudi


  10. Dear Gudi,
    Thank you very much for your comment. I have responded to you privately via email.
    Best wishes,
    Christine

  11. madhu Says:

    Dear Christine:

    One of our astros in India told my husband wont live beyond 2010. Is it true? Does his chart really say so. I am very tensed since that day. And as Gudi said I am in India, so I cant sue you, but I am very very tensed these days, cant concentrate on anything, please tell me if its true. Please let me know the truth. Thanks

    Madhu

  12. madhu Says:

    Ahh his date of birth is September 13, 1970. Time: 2 am. Place of birth: Ludhiana, Punjab, India.


  13. Dear Madhu,
    Thank you for your comment. I have responded to you privately via email.
    Christine

    To anyone else who sends me a question about their length of life or that of someone they love: I do not accept these questions, as I am not an expert in this topic.

  14. beth Says:

    I saw the death of my Grandmother in my chart and it was exact to the day. I then saw the death of my mother. Technically she did die five times, but was revived and lives to this day. I believed years ago that I could see the death of my father in my chart (approx now), which I could not believe at the time and yet now he has been diagnosed by cancer. Still, I am not an expert astrologer and perhaps to predict these things you need a certain amount of psychic ability. Funnily enough, a palm reader read my mother’s palm 25 years ago and predicted acurately the year of her ‘death’, yet as sometimes we cannot predict that you will be revived we can never be sure.

  15. sakshi Says:

    Dear Christine,
    I believe certain issues are really subjective.What is a poison for an individual can be a medicine for another and same is true for such death related predictions.If an individual is told he has a small lenth of time left, he can either be living the available time to its best and make the best of life or live in threat of the approaching death and get pessimistic and depressed.
    I am going through a very bad phase in life. I eloped and got married in oct’08, after marriage life has got really tough with very less understanding from my in-laws, guilt of having defamed my parents and regret of spoiling everyone’s life.
    I really need some clearity into my future (though not cumpulsorily true and genuine). It might not do much but can definitely empower me to deal with things i m dealing and ease my pains.
    I do also request you to predict my death and that of my husband as well.Though i love him madly, i really need to know it.
    As i am from india i actually can’t and won’t blame you of anything, but will consider it as a great favour.
    Please please do help.
    My DOB – 7th August, 1984 time – 11.10 a.m. Place – Gorakhpur, Uttar Pradesh, India
    My husband (Amit)’s DOB – 23rd Sept, 1979, time -17.21 p.m. Place – Delhi, India

  16. Noopur Says:

    I have been told by many indian palmistry experts to expect a short life span.
    A quizz on Facebook (Which I took just for fun)even predicted the exat date and year, which is like seven years from now.

    But knowing with some accuracy know when I am going to die… will certainly help me make many important decisions, and taking charge of my life.

    I’ll be forever obliged if you could please Mail me the closest you can to my D-day :)
    [Also anything of importance you think i need to know]

    Name: Noopur Jain
    DOB: 3rd September 1975
    TOB: 00:03 Hours
    POB: Shikohabad (District Mainpuri, State Uttar Pradesh)
    INDIA

  17. Rajesh Mehrotra Says:

    Name: Rajesh Mehrotra
    DOB: 22nd November 1968
    TOB: 18:05 PM
    POB: Kanpur, Uttar pradesh, India.

    My wife Noopur has already wrritten to you. I too am interested in my D-day.
    My life has never been at such loose ends and the legal hassles for almost the whole of last year..have you a solution or perhaps a date/time/month when I’ll emerge unscthed and some what Rich from this jam….or am I doomed for life?

    I’ll appreciate all that you can possible do for me Christine.

    Thanks
    Smiles & Regards
    Raj & Noopur


  18. Thank you all for your comments. I’m sorry to disappoint you lovely people, but I’m not predicting anyone’s death here.


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