In January I posted my answer to a horary question from a pregnant woman asking, “Will my baby be born at the birth center and when?” I’ve heard back from her, and happily she and her new baby girl are both doing well – after a scary start. She gave me permission to post a follow-up post, so let’s see if I read the horary chart correctly.
At the time, I broke down her question as follows:
“Can I do what I want? (i.e. have my baby at the birth center)”
I said, “Yes, to some extent.” The querent’s significator was Jupiter in its term – a minor dignity.
“When will the baby be born?”
I saw that Venus, Lord 5 and thus ruler of the baby, was 7 degrees of arc from crossing the ascendant. I suggested this meant the baby would arrive in 7 days. I also saw an applying sextile between Moon and Mercury, perfecting in 15 degrees but with poor mutual reception. I said the querent shouldn’t wait the full two weeks (15 degrees = 15 days) before inducing if necessary.
Results:
The chart was cast on 22 December at 6:22 am. The querent reports that she went to the birth center 6 days later, very early in the morning, and the baby arrived a couple of hours later. (The querent has asked that I not share exact birth date & time.) However, the baby was having some difficulties and was quickly transported to a neonatal ICU, while the querent also had to be admitted to the hospital with low blood pressure issues. Querent was released 3-4 days later, while the baby stayed in the hospital for a full 10 days after her birth. As the querent said to me, “a very scary way to start but she’s a perfectly healthy and happy baby now… So, I guess I sort of got what I thought I wanted with the birth center birth, and honestly, it’s probably better we were there as I think that the birth was faster. Had the end stage taken longer, she may have gone into distress.”
I predicted that the querent would be able to do what she wanted to some extent, namely, have her baby at the birth center. She did give birth there, though medical issues required her and her child to be admitted to the hospital shortly after the birth.
I predicted that the baby would arrive in 7 days. Actually, the baby arrived 6 days after the date of the chart. Pretty good, though not exactly right. Venus, representing the baby in the horary chart, was traveling at about 1 degree 15 minutes per day when the question was asked. This is faster than average for Venus. If I’d seen that, I might have realized I could trim a little bit off my prediction.
I saw that something was happening in 15 days, but didn’t really have insight as to what it was. The baby was finally released from the hospital 15 days after the date of the chart. But I’m not taking credit for that, as I didn’t understand it.
Class dismissed! Have a great day, and thanks for reading. If there’s a horary question I can answer for you, just ask.
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Hi Christine!
Good job! It would be helpful to put the full data in the post, but I found the link for the actual chart. Thank you! I agree with your analysis and technically you were completely spot on. The question wasn’t if the baby would be born at the birth center and completely well.
Samuel Reyolds
Hi, Samuel – thank you for the encouragement and for taking the time to comment! And you’re right, next time I’ll post chart data so it’s easier to find.
The timing from the notion “child’s significator emerges in the world/asc” was excellent.
I do not believe you goofed (as you implied on twitter). Like SamuelReynolds said, the questions were whether the querent gives birth in the med center and when.
You found both correctly.
Should the horary answer more than what was asked? We can see some issues for the mother via her NN conjunct 8th, the interception and etc (was it internal bleeding I wonder) but I can’t see what could show the hospitalization of the baby. However, it wasn’t the scope if the question in the first place.
Thanks for saying so. I tend to agree with you – no need to answer more than the querent asked for. That’s probably the best policy…
Thanks very much for your comment.
Hi Christine — thanks for posting the follow-up, very instructive. I asked a similar question for a friend and, being a beginner, was confused and actually upset at some very negative indications. It did turn out to be a pretty horrific birth experience, though both mother and baby are fine, thank goodness. I never told her, since she didn’t ask the horary question, I did, and because I am such a novice. Any insight?
Hi, Erin, thanks for coming by. I know, it’s so easy to see something scary in a horary and start freaking out. If there’s a particular factor in the chart that you’d like insight about, feel free to let me know, either via comment here or at christine [at] askchristine [dot] info.