A high school student writes, “I used to have a best friend. We basically grew up together. Then we had a big misunderstanding about a year ago. I really miss talking to her but I don’t know whether she likes me or not. I’m not sure if she wants to be my friend again. Should I try to talk to her? Would she be nice to me? What does she think/feel about me?”
13 April 2012, 11:13pm EDT, Arlington, MA USA. Regiomontanus houses. Click to enlarge the chart.
I don’t think it looks hopeful for this querent to reestablish the close relationship they had before, but there may be an opportunity to at least talk to her friend.
First , let’s identify the significators we need.
Sagittarius rises. This querent is represented by its ruler, Jupiter, in Taurus on the 6th house cusp. She is also represented by Moon in early Aquarius.
The question is about a friend. With Libra on the cusp of the 11th house of friends, its ruler Venus represents the friend. (Even though she is an ex-friend, I think that using the 11th house’s ruler to represent her is the correct way to go. Let me know in the comments if you think otherwise.)
Before anything else, I noticed that 9 Sagittarius is rising. That’s the current degree of the fixed star Antares, the heart of the scorpion. Antares is a royal star, but also a star representing endings. If the ascendant is like the cover of a book, seeing Antares there tells us right away that this is a story about something that is ending.
How does our querent feel about her friend? She still cares about her very much. Jupiter (Lord 1) is in Taurus, ruled by Venus (Lord 11); she loves her friend. The querent doesn’t have much ability to improve the situation, however; Jupiter is on the 6th house cusp, and the 6th is a cadent, “falling” house. Someone who is falling is not in control.
How does the friend feel about her? Venus is in Gemini, which is unfortunately a sign of Jupiter’s detriment. The friend isn’t merely indifferent; she actively dislikes our querent. In addition, Venus sits on the 7th house cusp of open enemies. This former friend is not likely to be receptive to the querent’s attempts to re-establish the friendship.
What’s more, Venus, Lord 11, is conjunct the fixed star Aldebaran. Just as Antares is about endings, Aldebaran, which opposes it in the zodiac, is about new beginnings. It looks like the friend has moved on to new things.
So, should our heroine try to talk to her friend? Possibly. Let’s look at the Moon, the querent’s other significator. In early Aquarius, the Moon applies to trine Venus with no intervening aspects. (As always, I do not include the outer planets or the quincunx aspect when looking at upcoming aspects, only the traditional seven planets and the Ptolemaic aspects.) This suggests that she’ll soon have an easy opportunity to talk to her friend – easy because it’s a trine.
The Moon is in Aquarius, which according to ibn Arabi is weak-voiced, but at least it is a human sign and not mute. This suggests that the querent will be able to articulate her feelings (Moon), but only partially (weak-voiced).
There is some common ground between Moon and Venus. With both planets in air signs, which in this night chart share Mercury as their triplicity ruler, they could discuss Mercury topics such as their classes or what they’re reading. This Mercury is in Pisces, so they might connect over Pisces types of Mercury topics, such as music or photography.
Finally, I see that Saturn is on the cusp of the 11th house. I think something is weighing the friend down. Saturn rules the friend’s 4th house of family and 5th house of fun, pastimes, and creativity. She may be going through some stuff at home that is dominating her thoughts.
What’s your take on this horary chart? Did I miss anything? Comment away!
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As always I enjoy reading your analyse and learn a lot from it!
Thanks,
Goca
Thanks, Goca!
Dear Christine, thanks for this.
The first thing that struck me is the fact that there is a consideration before judgment, namely that there is no relationship between the planetary hour and the Ascendant. If I come across this situation in my own practice, which happens sometimes, I will generally not judge the chart to avoid giving wrong or incomplete judgment.
Apart from this, I generally agree with your findings but what worries me a bit is the total lack of mutual receptions. It is one thing to have Moon, the co-significator of the querent, applying to a trine with Venus, but without MR it is hard to see the common ground the two of them will share, if contact should be made. Moon is as well conjunct fixed star Giedi, associated with piety and self-sacrifice. It would be of interest to find out if this is something that should be taken into consideration when judging this chart.
Best wishes,
Peter
Peter, thanks so much for coming by! I see your point about the consideration before judgment – I don’t look for those but I know many astrologers do. And you’re absolutely right about the lack of reception. It isn’t a particularly hopeful chart and I may have been grasping at straws for the sake of this young querent. Thanks again!
It’s my pleasure, Christine!
Radicality and considerations before judgment are of great importnace, particulalry nowadays, as we often can’t see the client in person.
Lilly & co had it much easier as they could have a look at the querent and from what they saw in the chart, could judge if the chart was radical or not.
In CA Lilly says:” .. the sign ascending shall in part signify his corporature, body or stature … of the person inquiring.” As we can not do this very often these days, we have to rely even more on the other considerations.
Only a radical chart can assure us that we can give proper judgment and that the querent asked his/her most urgent question and was not asking lightly or even tried to test the astrologer, etc.
I just found your blog and I really enjoy it! My forte is not horary, but I’m starting to study it, and you seem really talented at it.
Flattery will get you everywhere!
Thank you for reading and for your very kind words.
Haha, you’re welcome!
i adore your readings!!!!!!!!!!!i’m learning so much from you i would like more and more espesially love horaries..also more to dignities !!!
Thank you, Tonia!
Thank you for your horary example. Enjoying this one and learning from it… What’s your opinion about receptions? I Remember reading
somewhere in the past, that with an easy aspect like trine reception isn’t necessary for the outcome? Do you agree?
Hi, Rosalia, thanks so much for your comment. I think it depends on the question. For me, receptions tend to reinforce the judgment shown by an aspect. I don’t know that it’s 100% necessary for every single horary chart to have reception.
But also have a look at Peter Stockinger’s comments on this same blog post; he feels strongly that the lack of mutual reception will not help this querent get what she wants, and I think he may be right.
As I am mentioned, I hope you don’t mind me commenting. I think you will find that sometimes, when reception is strong, there does not need to be aspect perfection between the significators for a positive outcome. Nevertheless, aspect perfection without reception will not bring the desired outcome.
Hello Christine, I am just starting with horary and like it a alot , lots to learn , (using John Frawleys books )one can always learn from the translation how other people look at it!!
I have a lost horary to ask questions about.
I lost the green amberstone from my ring, the stone is large and very exclusive so assigned Jupiter to for the stone, I lost the stone 26June around 2.00 pm and think it was at costco store, since I used their washroom , possible the stone fell out when I dried my hands on their papertowels, I know it is not lost in my home, since I left with it caring it in my handbag, I went for a massage and put it on afterwards, also its not in the car either. I still hope some one found it and will put an add in our local paper and I also will try to see Costco in their lost and found dept.,
Can you take a go what do you read in t he chart, really appreciate your time .
sarm regards
A lurker
Sigi
Hi, Sigi, thanks for asking. I’ll email you separately about getting a reading. I hope the amber stone turns up!
Always wonderful to read your posts, Christine! I thought your delineation right on. I always want to give a plug for more posts from you!!
Molly, thank you for taking the time to say so! I’m delighted you liked it.